Date   
Pictures from the 2/22 meeting

Jon Guidry
 

I didn’t count, but we had a ginormous crowd today!  Thanks to everyone for dropping by!


Jon

Re: Apple II boot disks

Derek Newland
 

http://asciiexpress.net/gameserver/ is every Apple II owner's best friend! All you need is an audio cable to go from a computer / phone to the audio in port on the back of your Apple. You can then play the audio on the website to load software as you would a cassette player.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:47 PM Kyle Owen <kylevowen@...> wrote:
Looking forward to seeing everyone at the meeting tomorrow. I recently adopted a couple of Apple IIs: a IIe and a IIc. I didn't get any software with them, and don't yet know if they work. If someone is able to bring some known good boot disks and such, that would be very helpful. 

Thanks in advance!

Kyle



--
Derek Newland | (828) 234-4731 | derek.newland@...

Southern Fried Gaming Expo

Mauricio
 

Of interest to this group, here is a video we made for DragonConTV about the Southern-Fried Gaming Expo:

- Mauricio & Holly

Re: VCFSE this year

David Greelish
 

All, I’m not able to make it, as I am at a funeral today in FL.

Please, someone update the email list today about the status of the show this year. Are we having it or not, it’s almost March. Thanks.

Best,

David Greelish
Computer Historian, Writer and Producer of the documentary film, "Before Macintosh: The Apple Lisa” February 2020


ClassicComputing.com

Apple II boot disks

Kyle Owen
 

Looking forward to seeing everyone at the meeting tomorrow. I recently adopted a couple of Apple IIs: a IIe and a IIc. I didn't get any software with them, and don't yet know if they work. If someone is able to bring some known good boot disks and such, that would be very helpful. 

Thanks in advance!

Kyle

Re: A Few Items for Sale Saturday

Caddy Jack
 

Ben,I'm your huckleberry for the Panasonic cameras

  TI BASIC READY
> █


From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> on behalf of Ben Bolgla via Groups.Io <bolglab@...>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 3:34:33 AM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io>
Subject: [ahcs] A Few Items for Sale Saturday
 

Hi all,

 

I’ve been cleaning out some space in my house and plan to bring several Mac computers to the upcoming meeting. 

 

eMac G4 700MHZ $30 OBO

eMac G4 1.25GHZ $30 OBO

Powermac G5 1.6GHZ $70 OBO

 

I just preformed a fresh install of Mac OS 10.4 on the systems listed above, and they all appear fully functional.

 

I also plan on bringing a few more older systems that are in various stages of completeness/functionality, listed below. They are free to a good home.

 

Macintosh IICX (Does not power up, Possibly a bad Power supply, No HD but otherwise complete)

Macintosh IISI (There is some corrosion on the motherboard, was likely stored outdoors)

Performa 600 (No HD, but I was able to boot it from floppy)

 

I also have three large digital movie cameras from the 90s. There is one Sony DV cassette camera and two Panasonic S-VHS camcorders in large hardshell cases. I have not tested them, but they appear complete and in good condition. I will bring these also if anyone is interested.

 

I will likely have more than what is listed above as I continue sorting through things tomorrow.

 

Looking forward to Saturday!

Ben Bolgla

A Few Items for Sale Saturday

Ben Bolgla
 

Hi all,

 

I’ve been cleaning out some space in my house and plan to bring several Mac computers to the upcoming meeting. 

 

eMac G4 700MHZ $30 OBO

eMac G4 1.25GHZ $30 OBO

Powermac G5 1.6GHZ $70 OBO

 

I just preformed a fresh install of Mac OS 10.4 on the systems listed above, and they all appear fully functional.

 

I also plan on bringing a few more older systems that are in various stages of completeness/functionality, listed below. They are free to a good home.

 

Macintosh IICX (Does not power up, Possibly a bad Power supply, No HD but otherwise complete)

Macintosh IISI (There is some corrosion on the motherboard, was likely stored outdoors)

Performa 600 (No HD, but I was able to boot it from floppy)

 

I also have three large digital movie cameras from the 90s. There is one Sony DV cassette camera and two Panasonic S-VHS camcorders in large hardshell cases. I have not tested them, but they appear complete and in good condition. I will bring these also if anyone is interested.

 

I will likely have more than what is listed above as I continue sorting through things tomorrow.

 

Looking forward to Saturday!

Ben Bolgla

Re: New Apple II motherboards

BE Arnold
 

Hmm. On FB, I thought a saw an Apple II case being KS. (Could be an old post though, you never know about FB)
If I see it again I’ll check it.

Brad

Sent from my portable computing device.

On Feb 20, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Andre <andre.atlanta@...> wrote:

Now they just need to make the apple II case like they did with the c64c. New keyboards already exist so that would be the final step to 100% new apple II .

Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Sam Lysinger
 

I was a bit surprised you hadn't already figured it out. As I always
say, if you can get a teletypewriter to send and receive text messages
to smart phones, you can figure out just about anything... LOL

On 2/20/20, Steve Garrison - N4TTY via Groups.Io
<steve.n4tty=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I knew that there had to be at least one possible solution to this problem!
😊

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Lysinger
via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:44 PM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the
VIC-20

Easy, you tie a piece of wire to the new TV, then stand on one leg with both
arms and other leg balanced like a cross shape and it works fine.

On 2/20/20, Steve Garrison - N4TTY <@N4TTY> wrote:
How does “Uses any TV for its monitor” fit in with today’s digital TVs?



Steve G./N4TTY



From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tania
Moraes
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About
the
VIC-20



Hello Earl,

That would be wonderful ! I am really trying to avoid the long drive to
Midland City, AL. But I have no idea if these things are hard to come
around. Andre found it on FB Marketplace. The seller's description:
"VIC
20 computer with manual and 2 games. Programmable with simple
programming.
Uses any TV for its monitor. In original packaging". He is asking $60
for it. I have exchanged texts with the seller, and I was originally
thinking of going tomorrow (Friday), but I was really hoping we could
find it locally. Contact the seller again yesterday in order to
schedule for next week (so we could have more time to search for
alternatives closer to
Atlanta, at the risk of losing this one). Seller told me a couple other
people are interested, but he would wait for my response today, since
I contacted him first.

In sum, if you can point me in the direction of buying a similar one
locally, I would greatly appreciate it !

Andre is looking foward to participating in the meeting on Saturday. We
are
both planning on going. He will bring a couple projects he's been
working
on to share with the group and ask for advice.

Thank you very much,

Tania












Re: New Apple II motherboards

Andre
 

Now they just need to make the apple II case like they did with the c64c. New keyboards already exist so that would be the final step to 100% new apple II .

Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Andre
 
Edited

Ed King said " maybe andre will like the c64 mini"

Pobably but you can't connect diskdrives or tape drives and can't do run/stop + restore without maping out the keys on a modern keyboard. And there's no need for fixing or restoration which is half the fun with these old computers. Maybe the c64 maxi might intrest me more since it has the right keyboard design. Also no easy way to connect to a crt. (Yes a 13 year old has a crt)

Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group

Andre
 
Edited

I have already seen videos warning about this including one where the 5v line was at 12v. There are many good guides on how to build a new one. Also saw one where the 5v line didn't exist.

 


From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> on behalf of James Mahoney via Groups.Io <a11anmah0n3y@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 4:27:40 PM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group
 
Ive got a spare c64, and 1541 both in unknown working condition, if y'all are willing to do some extra work you can have em. either way, replace the old commodore power supplies ASAP and don't power the things on with em! commodore supplies are universally CRAP, and have a tendency to fry things.

Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group

James Mahoney
 

Ive got a spare c64, and 1541 both in unknown working condition, if y'all are willing to do some extra work you can have em. either way, replace the old commodore power supplies ASAP and don't power the things on with em! commodore supplies are universally CRAP, and have a tendency to fry things.

Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group

Pete Rittwage
 

Sure, if you are really wanting a VIC-20, I have a few of them and could spare one. I don't make it to many Atlanta meetings unfortunately and won't be able to make it Saturday. However, I am sure Earl or Raj or others have one... They are pretty common.  

I agree 100% that the C64 is a far more capable machine on all levels. The VIC-20 is neat and has history, but is rather limited, so unless you have some amount of nostalgia for that particular computer, I would skip it and get a C64.

-Pete




On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:07 AM, Earl Baugh <earl.baugh@...> wrote:
Myself, Pete or Raj may have an extra Vic-20. 
I will try to look before Saturday. 

Earl

Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Andy Craig
 

Gotta sign up for pictures on that web site. Here's my addition to the cable. Yea it's crammed in the SCART connector. We weren't blessed with abundant SCART TVs in the US back in the 80s but the upside is our televisions were pretty darn cheap. 



On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 2:22 PM Andy Craig <andycraig@...> wrote:
I suspect TVs mostly (all?) still come with composite input. The three 4K televisions I have bought still had this and they were budget priced ones.

For great video quality if you have something that puts out RGB this gizmo sold under many brand names is great. I've fed it PAL and NTSC with no noticeable lag. RGB quality is awesome. Fab up a cable to use the SCART input of this scaler. Output HDMI to any modern TV. 


On an Atari STf I had to combine H and V sync in the cable as described by ScooberDiver. 



On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 1:45 PM Steve Garrison - N4TTY via Groups.Io <steve.n4tty=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I knew that there had to be at least one possible solution to this problem!  😊

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Lysinger via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:44 PM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Easy, you tie a piece of wire to the new TV, then stand on one leg with both arms and other leg balanced like a cross shape and it works fine.

On 2/20/20, Steve Garrison - N4TTY <steve.n4tty@...> wrote:
> How does “Uses any TV for its monitor” fit in with today’s digital TVs?
>
>
>
> Steve G./N4TTY
>
>
>
> From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tania
> Moraes
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:34 AM
> To: main@ahcs.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About
> the
> VIC-20
>
>
>
> Hello Earl,
>
> That would be wonderful !   I am really trying to avoid the long drive to
> Midland City, AL.   But I have no idea if these things are hard to come
> around.  Andre found it on FB Marketplace.  The seller's description: "VIC
> 20 computer with manual and 2 games.   Programmable with simple programming.
>  Uses any TV for its monitor.  In original packaging".   He is asking $60
> for it. I have exchanged texts with the seller, and I was originally
> thinking of going tomorrow (Friday), but I was really hoping we could
> find it locally.  Contact the seller again yesterday in order to
> schedule for next week (so we could have more time to search for alternatives closer to
> Atlanta, at the risk of losing this one).   Seller told me a couple other
> people are interested, but he would wait for my response today, since
> I contacted him first.
>
> In sum, if you can point me in the direction of buying a similar one
> locally, I would greatly appreciate it !
>
> Andre is looking foward to participating in the meeting on Saturday.  We are
> both planning on going.   He will bring a couple projects he's been working
> on to share with the group and ask for advice.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Tania
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Andy Craig
 

I suspect TVs mostly (all?) still come with composite input. The three 4K televisions I have bought still had this and they were budget priced ones.

For great video quality if you have something that puts out RGB this gizmo sold under many brand names is great. I've fed it PAL and NTSC with no noticeable lag. RGB quality is awesome. Fab up a cable to use the SCART input of this scaler. Output HDMI to any modern TV. 


On an Atari STf I had to combine H and V sync in the cable as described by ScooberDiver. 



On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 1:45 PM Steve Garrison - N4TTY via Groups.Io <steve.n4tty=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I knew that there had to be at least one possible solution to this problem!  😊

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Lysinger via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:44 PM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Easy, you tie a piece of wire to the new TV, then stand on one leg with both arms and other leg balanced like a cross shape and it works fine.

On 2/20/20, Steve Garrison - N4TTY <steve.n4tty@...> wrote:
> How does “Uses any TV for its monitor” fit in with today’s digital TVs?
>
>
>
> Steve G./N4TTY
>
>
>
> From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tania
> Moraes
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:34 AM
> To: main@ahcs.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About
> the
> VIC-20
>
>
>
> Hello Earl,
>
> That would be wonderful !   I am really trying to avoid the long drive to
> Midland City, AL.   But I have no idea if these things are hard to come
> around.  Andre found it on FB Marketplace.  The seller's description: "VIC
> 20 computer with manual and 2 games.   Programmable with simple programming.
>  Uses any TV for its monitor.  In original packaging".   He is asking $60
> for it. I have exchanged texts with the seller, and I was originally
> thinking of going tomorrow (Friday), but I was really hoping we could
> find it locally.  Contact the seller again yesterday in order to
> schedule for next week (so we could have more time to search for alternatives closer to
> Atlanta, at the risk of losing this one).   Seller told me a couple other
> people are interested, but he would wait for my response today, since
> I contacted him first.
>
> In sum, if you can point me in the direction of buying a similar one
> locally, I would greatly appreciate it !
>
> Andre is looking foward to participating in the meeting on Saturday.  We are
> both planning on going.   He will bring a couple projects he's been working
> on to share with the group and ask for advice.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Tania
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Ed King
 

Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Steve Garrison - N4TTY
 

I knew that there had to be at least one possible solution to this problem! 😊

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Lysinger via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:44 PM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Easy, you tie a piece of wire to the new TV, then stand on one leg with both arms and other leg balanced like a cross shape and it works fine.

On 2/20/20, Steve Garrison - N4TTY <@N4TTY> wrote:
How does “Uses any TV for its monitor” fit in with today’s digital TVs?



Steve G./N4TTY



From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tania
Moraes
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About
the
VIC-20



Hello Earl,

That would be wonderful ! I am really trying to avoid the long drive to
Midland City, AL. But I have no idea if these things are hard to come
around. Andre found it on FB Marketplace. The seller's description: "VIC
20 computer with manual and 2 games. Programmable with simple programming.
Uses any TV for its monitor. In original packaging". He is asking $60
for it. I have exchanged texts with the seller, and I was originally
thinking of going tomorrow (Friday), but I was really hoping we could
find it locally. Contact the seller again yesterday in order to
schedule for next week (so we could have more time to search for alternatives closer to
Atlanta, at the risk of losing this one). Seller told me a couple other
people are interested, but he would wait for my response today, since
I contacted him first.

In sum, if you can point me in the direction of buying a similar one
locally, I would greatly appreciate it !

Andre is looking foward to participating in the meeting on Saturday. We are
both planning on going. He will bring a couple projects he's been working
on to share with the group and ask for advice.

Thank you very much,

Tania






Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Sam Lysinger
 

Easy, you tie a piece of wire to the new TV, then stand on one leg
with both arms and other leg balanced like a cross shape and it works
fine.

On 2/20/20, Steve Garrison - N4TTY <@N4TTY> wrote:
How does “Uses any TV for its monitor” fit in with today’s digital TVs?



Steve G./N4TTY



From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tania Moraes
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the
VIC-20



Hello Earl,

That would be wonderful ! I am really trying to avoid the long drive to
Midland City, AL. But I have no idea if these things are hard to come
around. Andre found it on FB Marketplace. The seller's description: "VIC
20 computer with manual and 2 games. Programmable with simple programming.
Uses any TV for its monitor. In original packaging". He is asking $60
for it. I have exchanged texts with the seller, and I was originally
thinking of going tomorrow (Friday), but I was really hoping we could find
it locally. Contact the seller again yesterday in order to schedule for
next week (so we could have more time to search for alternatives closer to
Atlanta, at the risk of losing this one). Seller told me a couple other
people are interested, but he would wait for my response today, since I
contacted him first.

In sum, if you can point me in the direction of buying a similar one
locally, I would greatly appreciate it !

Andre is looking foward to participating in the meeting on Saturday. We are
both planning on going. He will bring a couple projects he's been working
on to share with the group and ask for advice.

Thank you very much,

Tania






Re: My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

Steve Garrison - N4TTY
 

How does “Uses any TV for its monitor” fit in with today’s digital TVs?

 

Steve G./N4TTY

 

From: main@ahcs.groups.io <main@ahcs.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tania Moraes
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@ahcs.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ahcs] My son Andre and I just joined the group - About the VIC-20

 

Hello Earl, 

That would be wonderful !   I am really trying to avoid the long drive to Midland City, AL.   But I have no idea if these things are hard to come around.  Andre found it on FB Marketplace.  The seller's description: "VIC 20 computer with manual and 2 games.   Programmable with simple programming.  Uses any TV for its monitor.  In original packaging".   He is asking $60 for it. I have exchanged texts with the seller, and I was originally thinking of going tomorrow (Friday), but I was really hoping we could find it locally.  Contact the seller again yesterday in order to schedule for next week (so we could have more time to search for alternatives closer to Atlanta, at the risk of losing this one).   Seller told me a couple other people are interested, but he would wait for my response today, since I contacted him first.  

In sum, if you can point me in the direction of buying a similar one locally, I would greatly appreciate it ! 

Andre is looking foward to participating in the meeting on Saturday.  We are both planning on going.   He will bring a couple projects he's been working on to share with the group and ask for advice.  

Thank you very much, 

Tania